Why are Horizon part of the final REF assault on Earth?

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Most of the Horizon with the REF's final assualt fleet don't appear to have cargo pods or docked Alpha/Beta combos. Why are they with the fleet when it departs the moon for Earth if Horizon are unarmed vessels?
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HMMM... HAD TO GOOGLE THAT ONE...

www.kent.net/robotech/ships/ref/horizont.shtml

Horizont class Dive Transport DTTS-12





Dive Transatmospheric Troop Shuttle

The Horizont is the smallest vessel in the REF fleet. Unlike the larger combat spacecraft, the Horizont is a troop carrier. Its purpose is to transport troops, mecha, and supplies to and from the battlefield. To accomplish these tasks, the shuttle carries two armoured supply bunkers which can be "dropped", detached, at landing. Troops and supplies can be unloaded while the Horizont flies into space to get another load/bunkers. The troop bunkers do not have to be detached for the troops to disembark; however, a "hot" landing zone (LZ) seldom offers the luxury of time to land, wait for the unloading and fly off without the shuttle taking damage. The detachable bunkers enable the Horizont to quickly land/hover, drop its two bunkers and fly to safety before the enemy has time to focus an attack. In many respects, the Horizont can be thought of as the space-age equivalent to the helicopter in the Vietnam War (Earth, circa 1964-70).

The transport shuttle is operated by a pilot, copilot, two communications engineers and an Alpha and Beta pilot. The crew is located in the nose of the spacecraft. If necessary, the nose can detach from the rest of the vessel, functioning as an emergency escape pod. The escape pod can function only in space (drops like a rock in atmosphere) and can accommodate only 5 or 6 additional human-size passengers.

Inside the neck of the Horizont is a troop compartment which can hold 12 Cyclone riders (in armour) with the Cyclone mecha folded and stowed in compartments above each soldier.

The rear section is all engine except for the passageway that connects to the Alpha and Beta Veritech Fighters attached to the belly of the Horizont. The two Veritechs represent the only defense and assault weapons at the shuttle's disposal.

They are especially important when delivering troops or rescuing wounded in a "hot LZ," a landing area under heavy attack. As the shuttle makes its final landing approach, the Alpha and Beta (connected together) detach to lay down suppressing fire and distract the enemy. If the situation requires it, the Alpha and Beta act as two "combat" Huey helicopters engaging the enemy while a transport chopper picks up the wounded or drops off troops. Once the Horizon's job is done it leaves, with the two Veritechs flying escort. The Alpha and Beta can connect and reattach to the shuttle at any time.
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Replied by MEMO1DOMINION on topic Re:Why are Horizon part of the final REF assault on Earth?

FROM THE INFO ABOVE


1.Troops and supplies can be unloaded while the Horizont flies into space to get another load/bunkers.

2.delivering troops or rescuing wounded in a "hot LZ," a landing area under heavy attack.

3.can hold 12 Cyclone riders (in armour) with the Cyclone mecha folded and stowed in compartments above each soldier.


NUMBER 3 I HAVE TO ARGUE CONSIDERING THAT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD FIT TO SIZE. IN AN ACTUAL REAL LIFE ENVIRONMENT. THE DIMENSIONS I THINK ARE WRONG AND EVERYTHING WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE. FOR ANIMATION I THINK YOU CAN FIT 5O ELEPHANTS.

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wasnt the norizont modified, and wasnt one named sdf-7 in the comics?
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MEMO1DOMINION wrote:

FROM THE INFO ABOVE


1.Troops and supplies can be unloaded while the Horizont flies into space to get another load/bunkers.

2.delivering troops or rescuing wounded in a "hot LZ," a landing area under heavy attack.

3.can hold 12 Cyclone riders (in armour) with the Cyclone mecha folded and stowed in compartments above each soldier.


NUMBER 3 I HAVE TO ARGUE CONSIDERING THAT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD FIT TO SIZE. IN AN ACTUAL REAL LIFE ENVIRONMENT. THE DIMENSIONS I THINK ARE WRONG AND EVERYTHING WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE. FOR ANIMATION I THINK YOU CAN FIT 5O ELEPHANTS.

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Its tight but the cyclone rider compartment should fit. Actually it holds more than 12 cyclone riders. Since the REF's ground and air forces are in place, in force, before the fleet even lifts off from the moon I doubt the Horizon still have the cyclone riders on board.

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wasnt the norizont modified, and wasnt one named sdf-7 in the comics?

I believe the Horizon was modified in the comics, IINM it was called the arch-angel. They planned to give each New Generation capital ship class a "SDF-#" in the Sentinels tv series.

I have been looking at the last two episodes of TNG more closely and noticed that there are at least 4 color schemes (with some slight variations even within these), and a variety of pod configurations.
Color scheme as seen in Invid Invasion (red, white and blue striped), white with red strip and blue engine housings, all white with blue engine spires, and the dark version.
Seems to be no pods, mini-pods, single section pods, section and half pods, and two section pods.
Maybe the different color schemes might represent different models of the Horizon? Then again they could be different units or simply some REF designers' idea of pretty. :laugh:
There's also a streamlined Horizon but only one is seen in one scene so may be animator error.
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Replied by MEMO1DOMINION on topic Re:Why are Horizon part of the final REF assault on Earth?

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I have been looking at the last two episodes of TNG more closely and noticed that there are at least 4 color schemes (with some slight variations even within these), and a variety of pod configurations.
Color scheme as seen in Invid Invasion (red, white and blue striped), white with red strip and blue engine housings, all white with blue engine spires, and the dark version.
Seems to be no pods, mini-pods, single section pods, section and half pods, and two section pods.
Maybe the different color schemes might represent different models of the Horizon? Then again they could be different units or simply some REF designers' idea of pretty.
There's also a streamlined Horizon but only one is seen in one scene so may be animator error.
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GOOD INFO THERE.

HAVE TO FIND THOSE AND SEE IF DARTILLION CAN MAKE THOSE DIFFERENT COLOR SCHEMES.

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